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TangoTx
60. RE: Private Sites
Feb 11 2008, 1:18 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2008, 1:18 AM EST
"I am more interested in having a profile that does not have the invite than I am the description issue...the description can be controled by the creator....the permissions at this point cannot"
any news on a profile for private sites without the ability to invite???
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Posted Anonymously
61. RE: Private Sites
Feb 13 2008, 9:23 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 13 2008, 9:23 PM EST
"any news on a profile for private sites without the ability to invite???
"
any news on this type of update...very important to private sites....!!!!!!
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TangoTx
62. RE: Private Sites
Mar 15 2008, 11:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 11:41 AM EDT
still hoping to see a member category of member that cannot invite but still visit, it is the only way that a privte site can be private 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
radidio
radidio
63. RE: Private Sites
Mar 15 2008, 12:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 12:12 PM EDT
"still hoping to see a member category of member that cannot invite but still visit, it is the only way that a privte site can be private"
And I, too, am waiting for this. If anyone from WetPaint is reading this, I urge that you move on this ASAP. I have written before about acceptance of WetPaint in an academic environment. Both faculty and admin are very reluctant to try anything that cannot be restricted to a defined group.

Please add a member category that does not include invitation rights!
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TangoTx
64. RE: Private Sites
Mar 15 2008, 4:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 4:50 PM EDT
"And I, too, am waiting for this. If anyone from WetPaint is reading this, I urge that you move on this ASAP. I have written before about acceptance of WetPaint in an academic environment. Both faculty and admin are very reluctant to try anything that cannot be restricted to a defined group.

Please add a member category that does not include invitation rights!
"
thank you radidio......there are more reasons than what you have mentioned but all are legitimate....I hope some one is listening and cares...I cannot proceed with my site at this point because of this
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DigitalX
DigitalX
65. RE: Private Sites
Mar 15 2008, 5:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 5:10 PM EDT
Yes but if you invite someone to your site just simply give them a warning at the very start that if they invite anyone then they will be banned on all your wikis. They usually will get scared and they won't do it. Most people on Wetpaint should know by now not to do it as it will offend the owner. Do you find this valuable?    
radidio
radidio
66. RE: Private Sites
Mar 15 2008, 6:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 6:14 PM EDT
"Yes but if you invite someone to your site just simply give them a warning at the very start that if they invite anyone then they will be banned on all your wikis. They usually will get scared and they won't do it. Most people on Wetpaint should know by now not to do it as it will offend the owner."
This doesn't work for me. If there's even one person who isn't "scared", and they invite someone in who is able to gain entry before I discover it, then I can't use WetPaint for certain applications.

Again, I am trying to use WetPaint in an academic setting. If i have a classroom of students invited into a course wiki, there will be occasions when I do not want a student from a different class in this wiki. I'm not saying I can't trust students to not invite if told not to invite. I just don't want there to be a possibility.

I am also trying to sell the wiki idea to a large number of faculty. They need to have the no invite option ... some have told me that they will not try WetPaint until this feature is available.
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TangoTx
67. RE: Private Sites
Mar 15 2008, 7:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 7:19 PM EDT
"This doesn't work for me. If there's even one person who isn't "scared", and they invite someone in who is able to gain entry before I discover it, then I can't use WetPaint for certain applications.

Again, I am trying to use WetPaint in an academic setting. If i have a classroom of students invited into a course wiki, there will be occasions when I do not want a student from a different class in this wiki. I'm not saying I can't trust students to not invite if told not to invite. I just don't want there to be a possibility.

I am also trying to sell the wiki idea to a large number of faculty. They need to have the no invite option ... some have told me that they will not try WetPaint until this feature is available."
having been on the Internet for 15 tears.....fear is not the solution......only the ability to determine specific members makes a site private....................and then you have to deal with hackers......please don't be so naive to think that a warning is adequate
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TangoTx
68. RE: Private Sites
Mar 15 2008, 7:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 7:20 PM EDT
"having been on the Internet for 15 tears.....fear is not the solution......only the ability to determine specific members makes a site private....................and then you have to deal with hackers......please don't be so naive to think that a warning is adequate"
hummmmmmmmmmmmmm tears equal years.....
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TangoTx
69. RE: Private Sites
Mar 18 2008, 11:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 11:33 PM EDT
I guess I am a lone ranger on this subject....there seems to be no interest...so thanks for the opportunity to build a site,,,I wil leave now because your private sites are NOT private,,,,,and I will delete my site so as not to take up your space 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

Jason_wetpaint
70. RE: Private Sites
Mar 19 2008, 12:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 12:48 AM EDT
I'm sorry we haven't moved on this fast enough for you. It is something we're looking into, though. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

Posted Anonymously
71. RE: Private Sites
Mar 19 2008, 7:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 7:19 PM EDT
well you dont need too but you will have the ads i suppose,i currently have the ads but in the future i want them off and i wll pay a sum ;D 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

Posted Anonymously
72. RE: Private Sites
Mar 19 2008, 7:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 7:22 PM EDT
"well you dont need too but you will have the ads i suppose,i currently have the ads but in the future i want them off and i wll pay a sum ;D"
well i refer to non willing payers.
i would like to have a premium registration and give a sum of money to remove the ads later on and those who dont want to pay stay with the ads.
btw my wiki is http://djsoul.wetpaint.com/
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Posted Anonymously
73. RE: Private Sites
Mar 19 2008, 10:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 10:57 PM EDT
for the others that posted I appreciate your issues about ads but that is not what this thread is about....it is about private sites not being private because every registered member can invite...so thread drift is not a good thing....please post your suggestion yourselves on your own....jS Do you find this valuable?    

Posted Anonymously
74. RE: Private Sites
Mar 20 2008, 12:29 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 20 2008, 12:29 AM EDT
Jason.
how is it that you look into something that is entirely obvious....and for months do not make a move?
is this corporate?....
I thought you people were new and innovative.............now you sound same old same old
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Jason_wetpaint
75. RE: Private Sites
Mar 20 2008, 1:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 20 2008, 1:07 AM EDT
Despite what you may think, it's not an easy change. Roles and Permission are an integral part of our system and affect every page load in numerous ways. When I say that we're looking into something, that means we're evaluating what development and testing would require in order to make it work.

We've proven, repeatedly and recently, that we respond to our users' requests. While this particular feature has gotten a few requests, it's not more important than some other initiatives we're been working on recently. Friends, What's New, Promote Your Site, and the site redesign were significant efforts, both in feature functionality and development time. There are many great ideas that get left out on every release.

I agree that this is an important change to make. I am not, however, the sole arbiter of what gets developed.
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Posted Anonymously
76. RE: Private Sites
Mar 20 2008, 7:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 20 2008, 7:39 AM EDT
"We've proven, repeatedly and recently, that we respond to our users' requests.
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Jason - I agree that WetPaint has been very responsive - the 'Paint is an excellent wiki product. The design changes are excellent, and were themselves a fairly rapid response to another thread requesting the two-column option

Keep it coming!

I understand that everyone believes that their suggestions is more crucial than others, but in this case I believe that this one - private sites- is actually one of the most important b/c some users, perhaps many, won't use, or stay with your product without it. So anything you can do to speed along this needed functionality is much appreciated.

Thanks for keeping us informed of what's up.
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jaywitty
77. RE: Private Sites
Mar 25 2008, 9:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 9:44 AM EDT
"Despite what you may think, it's not an easy change. Roles and Permission are an integral part of our system and affect every page load in numerous ways. When I say that we're looking into something, that means we're evaluating what development and testing would require in order to make it work.

We've proven, repeatedly and recently, that we respond to our users' requests. While this particular feature has gotten a few requests, it's not more important than some other initiatives we're been working on recently. Friends, What's New, Promote Your Site, and the site redesign were significant efforts, both in feature functionality and development time. There are many great ideas that get left out on every release.

I agree that this is an important change to make. I am not, however, the sole arbiter of what gets developed."
Not criticizing your response to user requests but I just wanted to add myself to the list of users who is requesting the ability to restrict users from inviting other people. Speaking from an educational perspective, it is difficult to moderate the pages of my wiki and it would be incredibly useful if I could restrict my students from inviting other people to the wiki. I would like the wiki to be viewed publicly so that parents can see what is going on (I don't want to invite them as members) but I don't want the students to be able to invite others to join. Thanks for such a great product!! Looking forward to seeing this development.
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radidio
radidio
78. RE: Private Sites
Mar 25 2008, 11:30 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 11:30 AM EDT
"Speaking from an educational perspective, it is difficult to moderate the pages of my wiki and it would be incredibly useful if I could restrict my students from inviting other people to the wiki. I would like the wiki to be viewed publicly so that parents can see what is going on (I don't want to invite them as members) but I don't want the students to be able to invite others to join. "
jaywitty - your scenario is an excellent example of what faculty would like to do when using a product like Wetpaint. We need to have a mix of open and private options - so that we can decide whether parents, students in other classes, other faculty, other schools, etc are invited in , and with what level of access privilege.
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Posted Anonymously
79. RE: Private Sites
Mar 25 2008, 8:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 8:17 PM EDT
I really appreciate the fact that there are many here who consider this an absolute necessity for private sites to be viable. I find that the privacy of a site is based on it's administration and without this feature it would be impossible to do that correctly and with any kind of assurance that what you are trying to create is what you receive. I also know of many that are currently not using the site because of this or there would be a higher priority and a higher number of request. It is difficult to chime in if they are not here. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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