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Kengan |
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Dec 27 2011, 7:37 PM EST
Our organization's pages have been in place for years, are now loading slowly for all users. Does the amount of data matter (short pages, but lots of 'em have accumulated over the years. Mostly one page added, 2x per month or so.)Please help! Thank you! Do you find this valuable? |
Naru2008 |
1. RE: slow
Dec 27 2011, 11:44 PM EST
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The amount of information/data on a page shouldn't matter how fast or slow the pages load. This would be part of the servers on Wetpaint's part, if for every user it is loading slowly.Although, i'm not tech-savvy, so i'd wait for clarification from CryingDove. -Clay Do you find this valuable? |
fionanevell |
2. RE: slow
Dec 28 2011, 5:56 PM EST
Recently I often get the 'timeout on gateway' error when trying to load my wiki pages. This doesn't happen with any other web sites.
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CryingDove |
3. RE: slow
Dec 28 2011, 7:30 PM EST
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I would assume that all wikis are suffering from slow access and navigation through pages, threads and updates. This started about Sept 2010 or maybe a month earlier. I do not have access to the logs on the server side to see what type of activity is going on at any one moment, but an educated guess is in order. My belief the slowness is because of the amount of new accounts being created on many wikis.Many accounts (200-300) on Wetpaint Central alone, are "Bogus" accounts. My research has this type of activity going on since around Jan 2010 and the daily amount is increasing. How does this account for the slowness? When the account is made, the new member must fill in the Captcha information. Once the account is made, they delete the new member profile template information and/or place links to their website. This takes up server time. Wikis that have been trying to keep up with the spam, are banning the spammers as fast as they come on. Doing so, doubles the server usage time. Wikis will experience slowness in navigating through their wiki. Some will tire of waiting, and do a reload. This will also increase response time, because the servers will have to respond to the new request. This can be seen in the Updates section which is most difficult to see nowadays. This is due to the process of gathering the information about the Spam accounts which fills the updates form. It is a catch 22 with everyone contributing the slowness. more to come..... Do you find this valuable? |
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CryingDove |
4. RE: slow
Dec 28 2011, 7:31 PM EST
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What to do about it. That only Wetpaint Developers can address and find a solution. I have recommended a couple of solutions.1. Addressing the bogus account creation. Wetpaint put in place a script that monitors the new member creation routine. If the amount of new profiles created breaks a threshold (in the number of profiles created in a determined time) it will report the ip address of the spammer and they will be banned permanently. This prevents Bots from creating accounts. This is a step in the right direction. But it does not handle the human creating the profiles who are aware of detection routines and know how to circumvent them. 2. The Captcha verification process used by itself, has run its course on the internet. There are workarounds offered on the internet to bypass the process. There are also, people getting paid to answer the Captcha words and report the two words back to companies who will then use them for bots. 3. There are a couple of ways to hinder the bogus account spammer. a) Use a dual verification process.This would add time to the process of creating an account. Bots,would not work and spammers would tire, because it would not be able to do 200 to 300 a day. A valid new user would not mind. b) A call back verification through email (clicking on a link supplied by WP to bring the user back to the new account process), along with a captcha process, would work wonderfully well. Most of the spammers use fictitious emails. Spammers would not be able to join. But, there is a snag. Wetpaint has stated over the past year it would not be developing any new features for this platform. Their main efforts are going towards the Entertainment platform. We can only hope that something will be done. Do you find this valuable? |
bellswebster |
6. RE: slow
Jan 1 2012, 9:03 PM EST
I have to wait a good 5 minutes to go from one wiki to another. The dots just go round and round and round. Sometimes timing out. I was met with a blank white screen with 2 of the wikis this morning. The messages aren't opening right away either, and often i have to cancell it and start again. The servers are way off and need adjusting again. Sometimes I don't even make it to the last posting page, it stops at the page before it.
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CryingDove |
7. RE: slow
Jan 1 2012, 10:29 PM EST
"I have to wait a good 5 minutes to go from one wiki to another. The dots just go round and round and round. Sometimes timing out. I was met with a blank white screen with 2 of the wikis this morning. The messages aren't opening right away either, and often i have to cancell it and start again. The servers are way off and need adjusting again. Sometimes I don't even make it to the last posting page, it stops at the page before it."We, the community has been aware of the slowness of navigating through the features of their wikis for awhile now. This has been brought up to Wetpaint. We can only wait til they address this issue(s) (whatever the issue(s) may be) about the slowness. And the symptoms, as you have described is apparent, and happening to everyone. Like always, we have to be patient. Do you find this valuable? |
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8. RE: slow
Jan 1 2012, 11:53 PM EST
Honestly, I could handle pages not loading and what not. But when I post a thread, or reply, and it doesn't show up for up to an hour... it gets frustrating. I honestly don't think we're asking for much to fix some problems.... the servers have been doing this for such a long time and there is no way to get around it.
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CoolAs101 |
9. RE: slow
Jan 2 2012, 3:36 AM EST
Wow i've just come back to wetpaint after probably 12 months of invactivity on this network. And it really has gotten alot slower. Its sad to see Wetpaint has discontinued developing this platform. It was a great platform until it started getting spammed with ads on every wiki. Wetpaint should sell the rights to this platform t someone who has time to furthur develop it, and add all the features like password protected pages. And congrats on getting admin crying dove (like I said I haven't been on in ages xD)
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naruto87 |
10. RE: slow
Jan 2 2012, 11:51 AM EST
"Wow i've just come back to wetpaint after probably 12 months of invactivity on this network. And it really has gotten alot slower. Its sad to see Wetpaint has discontinued developing this platform. It was a great platform until it started getting spammed with ads on every wiki. Wetpaint should sell the rights to this platform t someone who has time to furthur develop it, and add all the features like password protected pages. And congrats on getting admin crying dove (like I said I haven't been on in ages xD)"Well for me it did started as CryingDrove Said 2010 but as I wonder some browsers like Google chrome and Firefox are fast on the wetpaint wikis now I don`t have to wait for 10 mins or 5mins Do you find this valuable? |
silvertabbiesrock |
11. RE: slow
Jan 2 2012, 7:07 PM EST
Firefox is faster than Internet Explorer by a lot. Also, on Firefox you can install Ad-Blocker Plus. That blocks all wetpaint ads.
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bellswebster |
12. RE: slow
Jan 2 2012, 10:11 PM EST
"Firefox is faster than Internet Explorer by a lot. Also, on Firefox you can install Ad-Blocker Plus. That blocks all wetpaint ads."I'm on Firefox and have addblock and it makes no difference. The speed is significantly slower than yesterday. Posts are going missing for a while, pages won't move to where you send them, it takes forever to go from one page to another. Do you find this valuable? |
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fionanevell |
13. RE: slow
Jan 3 2012, 12:42 AM EST
I have spent all day trying to access my wiki using three different browsers. Only managed to log on twice. When I tried to change the name of a page the error ‘page already exists’ kept appearing – which it doesn’t. In short I have achieved nothing today, except possibly higher blood pressure.This problem, added to no weekly digests, makes Wetpaint extremely difficult to get on with. Is there some way I can migrate my Wetpaint wiki info to another wiki (suggestions?) somewhere please? Do you find this valuable? |
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bellswebster |
14. RE: slow
Jan 3 2012, 12:47 AM EST
"I have spent all day trying to access my wiki using three different browsers. Only managed to log on twice. When I tried to change the name of a page the error ‘page already exists’ kept appearing – which it doesn’t. In short I have achieved nothing today, except possibly higher blood pressure.The problems are the wetpaint servers. They need adjusting again. Changing browsers won't do anything. Do you find this valuable? |
