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ForestForTreesTMS |
We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 24 2011, 8:59 PM EST
Hi, all... I just read through the thread that CryingDove started on January 5th about Wetpaint turning away from wikis. It bummed me out a bit, but I can't say that I didn't see it coming, as I'm sure that many of you did. While I'm not thrilled that development has essentially ceased for the "Wikis by Wetpaint" platform, I understand that they weren't making any money and didn't see themselves making money in the future. They did what they needed to do, and now we are pretty much on our own. It seems like the community of Wetpaint admins and writers has now entered into a new and more independent phase. Previously, we needed to look to Wetpaint for leadership in growing the community of Wetpainters. Now, we own that process. Take, for example, the recent Golden Paintcan awards. Various leaders within our community stepped up, did a really terrific job, and showed that while it might be nice to have a $40 million corporation behind us, we can do fine on our own (thanks, guys!). It's a little scary not having the corporation behind us, and we all feel a little deserted (I know I do). However, when we do it all on our own, I think that that is something that we can really be proud of. One thing we definitely have going for us is that Wetpaint wikis have always attracted natural leaders and people with a strong desire to contribute. This makes sense, after all... we all wanted to build wikis, to create something completely new and share it with the world. On that note, I look forward to seeing how the community evolves over the coming years. Just my 2 cents... Do you find this valuable? |
Evil_Genius77 |
1. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 26 2011, 4:37 PM EST
I agree... This is a very sad, sad fact. But as sad as this is, I think there is a bright side. Will there be glitches? Yes. Will there be new features? No. Will we have the backing of Wetpaint? No. But can we get through it better? Yes.I move to reinstate the suggestion page. I think that we at Wetpaint makes Wetpaint what it really is, and we have suggestions. Of course we shouldn't put things like "do this for the email system" or "add this feature", but this year's Golden Paint Can Awards are evident of the fact that we users and we creators in this virtual world can do far more with our imaginations than people give us. I myself have a lot of ideas. A Can You Do This For Me? support page, or better yet, support site, would be fantastic. Users could say, I can't get this picture the proper size, could you help me? I'm working on this, can you help me? And we users with time could help. We can create new advertising programs to spread the word about great sites, and perhaps even weeklong contests where two teams are allowed into a "closed wiki" for a week. They both would have the same idea for a site, and they would have to populate it with pictures, and format it and design it, and make content. These are just some of the ideas I have. And, surprisingly, none of them require a Wetpaint staffer or Wetpaint's OK. So I move, firstly, to move forward together, and secondly, to reinstate the suggestions page. Just in a different light. My two cents for a worthy cause. :) Do you find this valuable? |
bellswebster |
2. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 26 2011, 5:50 PM EST
Wetpaint have hired someone to fix the problems. So far they have done well. The new message says the sites will be in read mode only again tonight for about 8 hours. Hopefully this will fix the glitches once and for all.
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Posted Anonymously |
3. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 26 2011, 5:54 PM EST
well??whats the update on the system, server and wikis?? the same old message there from yesterday with no update yet? is the update finish??? Do you find this valuable? |
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Posted Anonymously |
4. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 26 2011, 5:55 PM EST
"well??site maintainence??? well update us Do you find this valuable? |
CryingDove |
5. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 26 2011, 5:56 PM EST
| Post edited: Jan 28 2011, 1:08 PM EST
17of the 26 suggestions on the suggestions page have already been answered with a solution.Many requests for individual assistance have been answered. like getting an infant feeding center, a editable expandable Calendar template, utilizing a image map, putting Cambridge EFL to a page, putting a word document on a wiki page without Doc Stocs, embedding Windows media player, a progress bar, adding Cooltext buttons to a page, slide show with magnifcation, todo alert, or even a search for albums and photos within an album. Genealogy templates. A new site search that returns more results than WP's site search. How to backup and restore your wiki. Indepth table instructions, element measurements as defined by WP, extensive iframe usage, and many reference tutorials. Plus there is a defunct searchable advertising wiki (gave way to WPADS) and a workable Who's Online feature...just sitting out there collecting cyber-dust. Bottom line is that Wetpaint community has done more for the Wetpaint community than Weptaint has and it will continue to assist each other. Tavelling to other wikis to assist is a great idea. This works if the knowledge of what is done, is imparted to a member of that visited wiki so they may teach others. It follows the old adage. "Give a man a fish and he will eat for the day." "Teach him how to fish and and you feed him for a lifetime." Do you find this valuable? |
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Evil_Genius77 |
6. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 26 2011, 6:06 PM EST
I agree with that... I have emailed my contest idea to CaptainSpaz to see if he would be interested in it as an extension of the GPC's. I think that the suggestion page can be brought into greater prominence.
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Naru2008 |
7. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 26 2011, 8:27 PM EST
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"well??The Maintenance done last night and this morning was complete, but many others will follow. Tonight and probably the rest of the week, they will go under Maintenance for the rest of this week. Do you find this valuable? |
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bellswebster |
8. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 27 2011, 8:14 PM EST
"The Maintenance done last night and this morning was complete, but many others will follow. Tonight and probably the rest of the week, they will go under Maintenance for the rest of this week."Gee, is it that bad to fix they need to take several goes at it? Do you find this valuable? |
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Posted Anonymously |
9. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 27 2011, 9:16 PM EST
"Gee, is it that bad to fix they need to take several goes at it?"It IS when the people "working" on it don't have a clue what the hell they are doing. The problem(s), in "experienced" hands....would have easily, for the most part, been fixed within 8 hours, tops. But like I said,,,, 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
justinwacnj |
10. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 28 2011, 1:26 PM EST
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"It IS when the people "working" on it don't have a clue what the hell they are doing. The problem(s), in "experienced" hands....would have easily, for the most part, been fixed within 8 hours, tops. But like I said,,,,"Wetpaint hired a database expert to fix the problem. It seems as if the problems are getting fixed, everything is running a little bit better, And these database problems may take a while to fix, and they are doing the best they can. Rome wasn't built in a day. Do you find this valuable? |
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Maxwilly |
11. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 28 2011, 1:29 PM EST
Actually guys, Jake from Wetpaint is keeping us updated on the database problems. They should be sorted soon. Here is a copy of his message:Hi everyone, As you know, Jeremy is on vacation this week, so I'll try to keep you up to date on some work that's happening. You probably noticed the read-only period last night, and we're going to do another one tonight. What's happening is that our technology team is working on each database machine, one at a time, to get them rebuilt and back in sync. Unfortunately it's a time-consuming process for each one, and requires that we be in read-only mode while the work is going on, but it's to a good end. When they are done, we hope that will have resolved the issues with content being out of sync. We're probably looking at read-only periods the next few nights as well. We're starting them in the evening Pacific Time, in hopes of having the bulk of the downtime be on off-hours as much as possible for as many of our users as possible. I'll keep you up to date on the schedule and timing for these over the next few days. Thanks, Jake at Wetpaint Do you find this valuable? |
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12. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 28 2011, 2:56 PM EST
Many many thanks for the update. It is very good to know that Wetpaint is working steadily on this. It's pretty painful to have the slow page loads and to have people be blocked from adding content.
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ForestForTreesTMS |
13. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 28 2011, 2:56 PM EST
"Many many thanks for the update. It is very good to know that Wetpaint is working steadily on this. It's pretty painful to have the slow page loads and to have people be blocked from adding content."Oops. Forgot to log in. That was me. Do you find this valuable? |
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bellswebster |
15. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 28 2011, 3:39 PM EST
Thanks wetpaint for doing this. I am sure we all appreciate the time to do it..and I assume it will cost a bit to fix. I do hope that everything will be fixed to a 100% running standard. Then we all can move on, with or without extra features. I for one would be happy to just have the wikis running to perfection.
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justinwacnj |
17. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 28 2011, 3:54 PM EST
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wfpXI5PKlw"I don't think the Spice Girls can fix Wetpaint's database. Please do not post anything irrelevant to Wetpaint Help & Support on WPC. http://www.wetpaintcentral.com/page/Wetpaint+Central+Rules Do you find this valuable? |
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Maxwilly |
18. RE: We're on our own.... and that's okay
Jan 28 2011, 3:56 PM EST
I'm going to lock this thread now, as it is not relevant to the topic, despite it's informativeness. We are also getting spam posts on here.-Thread Locked- Do you find this valuable? |
