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Tosan139
Tosan139
Should we have more community mods?
Dec 1 2010, 8:32 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2010, 8:32 PM EST
Question. Since a lot of mods are currently inactive and busy with things, should admins make two month mods to help keep this place stable? Just wondering.. It would only be for trustworthy people and also until they are less busy. Discuss. Do you find this valuable?    
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Maxwilly
1. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 10:38 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 10:38 AM EST
I like that idea, and I'm sure you know why.

I certainly have plenty of time on my hands.
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Losa78
Losa78
2. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 12:53 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 1:37 PM EST
The idea certainly wouldn't hurt, but aside from some off-topic, irrelevant and illicit threads that occasionally pop up here and there, I don't see why you could say this place hasn't been "stable" enough.
I see people's questions and concerns being addressed well and fast enough as it is, even with help from people who are not even mods here but are knowledgeable enough, specially Maxwilly (sure) and CryingDove.

I hope you guys are not talking about the necessary updates on the Wetpaint 100 list... =_=... srsly...
... Or about the big bugs we had recently... because the mods couldn't help that for sure, could they?

What specific instability are you referring to that needed to be resolved, Tosan? We don't even have too blatant trolls that last long...



Edit: Forgot to mention Justinwacnj, who is also not a moderator, but is always very present and helpful as well. Sorry if i may have forgotten anyone else. My bad.
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Maxwilly
3. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 1:47 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 1:47 PM EST
"Edit: Forgot to mention Justinwacnj, who is also not a moderator, but is always very present and helpful as well. Sorry if i may have forgotten anyone else. My bad."
You forgot yourself.

CryingDove used to be a moderator, then turned down the position. I don't know why.

As for instability, he's not talking about the Wetpaint 100, or the bugs. He just says that a lot of the mods have been very inactive recently. Clay (Naru2008) is usually the most active moderator, but he's banned from his computer until his grades get put onto some sort of system, to see if he's doing well or not.

I don't know when he'll be back. As for the other mods, I simply have no idea where they are.
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Losa78
Losa78
4. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 2:20 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 2:20 PM EST
"You forgot yourself.

CryingDove used to be a moderator, then turned down the position. I don't know why.

As for instability, he's not talking about the Wetpaint 100, or the bugs. He just says that a lot of the mods have been very inactive recently. Clay (Naru2008) is usually the most active moderator, but he's banned from his computer until his grades get put onto some sort of system, to see if he's doing well or not.

I don't know when he'll be back. As for the other mods, I simply have no idea where they are."
Heh, I try to help somewhat whenever I can, but I feel way out of my league most of the time, even though I have been with Wetpaint for over two years now, mostly because I have only become a moderator anywhere for the first time about four months ago, and that's when I started coming here. I wouldn't want to be a moderator here because I wouldn't be able to solve most of the more technical issues.

Maybe CryingDove just didn't have the time for this or didn't want to bother anymore. There sure are a lot of new threads and questions being posted everyday, so it can be pretty intense and it's totally understandable.

And yes, Naru2008 is usually the most active moderator, but you also have several others who pop up many times, like Walrusworldstudios, Naruto 87, CaptainSpaz and Moderator_kevin. Even Jeremy posts every now and then when things get really rough.
That's why I don't really feel we need any more mods.
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Maxwilly
5. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 3:39 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 3:39 PM EST
"And yes, Naru2008 is usually the most active moderator, but you also have several others who pop up many times, like Walrusworldstudios, Naruto 87, CaptainSpaz and Moderator_kevin. Even Jeremy posts every now and then when things get really rough.
That's why I don't really feel we need any more mods."
Moderator_kevin works for Wetpaint. Him and Jeremy rarely post. Philip (CaptainSpaz) posts a little, but he isn't very active at the moment. Clay is not allowed on the computer for quite a long time. Naruto87 (Josh) has also been banned from his computer, he can only go on for 1 hour every so often now. Walrusworldstudios doesn't post much (I think he can be a bit harsh when he does, but I'm not meaning that personally).

So 2 of the moderators aren't allowed on their computers, the Wetpaint employees don't help much, and The other 2 moderators aren't very active. I'm always seeing spam threads and such that are still untouched now, even after a week or so. They should be deleted.
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Losa78
Losa78
6. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 4:09 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 4:09 PM EST
"Moderator_kevin works for Wetpaint. Him and Jeremy rarely post. Philip (CaptainSpaz) posts a little, but he isn't very active at the moment. Clay is not allowed on the computer for quite a long time. Naruto87 (Josh) has also been banned from his computer, he can only go on for 1 hour every so often now. Walrusworldstudios doesn't post much (I think he can be a bit harsh when he does, but I'm not meaning that personally).

So 2 of the moderators aren't allowed on their computers, the Wetpaint employees don't help much, and The other 2 moderators aren't very active. I'm always seeing spam threads and such that are still untouched now, even after a week or so. They should be deleted."
So Clay and Josh have been "banned" from their computers, you say, huh? What are these kids up to these days? Geeezzz... LOL ;)

Okay, Moderator_Kevin and Jeremy are Wetpaint staff and this thread is about community (volunteer and unpaid) moderators, so I'll give you that. I still see them enough times, imho.
I agree that Walrusworldstudios is a little harsh sometimes, but he gets the job done. It's end of discussion with the guy. Hehehe... ;)

I also have to agree on the spam, off-topic and illicit threads, as I have already mentioned myself, even though I feel it's not too many of them and they tend to not last more than a few hours. It can also depend on the timezones on the globe, as I would risk to say most mods are from the US. Maybe someone from a completely different timezone could be a worthy addition.
Anyway, in the middle of the thousands of threads here, a few unwanted ones here and there are really no biggie.

If someone new has to become a mod and we were to choose, you and Justinwacnj would surely have my vote, though, Mawilly. No question about that.
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justinwacnj
justinwacnj
7. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 6:35 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 6:35 PM EST
"So Clay and Josh have been "banned" from their computers, you say, huh? What are these kids up to these days? Geeezzz... LOL ;)

Okay, Moderator_Kevin and Jeremy are Wetpaint staff and this thread is about community (volunteer and unpaid) moderators, so I'll give you that. I still see them enough times, imho.
I agree that Walrusworldstudios is a little harsh sometimes, but he gets the job done. It's end of discussion with the guy. Hehehe... ;)

I also have to agree on the spam, off-topic and illicit threads, as I have already mentioned myself, even though I feel it's not too many of them and they tend to not last more than a few hours. It can also depend on the timezones on the globe, as I would risk to say most mods are from the US. Maybe someone from a completely different timezone could be a worthy addition.
Anyway, in the middle of the thousands of threads here, a few unwanted ones here and there are really no biggie.

If someone new has to become a mod and we were to choose, you and Justinwacnj would surely have my vote, though, Mawilly. No question about that."
I agree, and thanks for the 'nomination'. lol :)
Also, I believe you too should be a moderator, you give much more informative replies than me when helping users.
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CaptainSpaz
CaptainSpaz
8. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 6:47 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 6:47 PM EST
I am actually inactive because it takes about 5-minutes for the Updates page to load. Due to the slow loading time, it makes it difficult for me to adequately moderate this wiki...but I am managing. Do you find this valuable?    
justinwacnj
justinwacnj
9. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 6:58 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 6:58 PM EST
"I am actually inactive because it takes about 5-minutes for the Updates page to load. Due to the slow loading time, it makes it difficult for me to adequately moderate this wiki...but I am managing."
I know what you mean. The Updates page takes ages!
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CryingDove
CryingDove
10. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 7:36 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 7:36 PM EST
"I am actually inactive because it takes about 5-minutes for the Updates page to load. Due to the slow loading time, it makes it difficult for me to adequately moderate this wiki...but I am managing."
Clicking on the updates button will take an enormous amount of time to load. But if you click on recently updated threads or recently updated pagesfrom the pulldown, it loads much faster than doing the updates. I mean much faster.
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CaptainSpaz
CaptainSpaz
11. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 2 2010, 8:05 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 8:05 PM EST
That's what I have been doing recently. Do you find this valuable?    
naruto87
naruto87
12. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 4 2010, 8:52 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 4 2010, 8:53 AM EST
"That's what I have been doing recently."
Well We aren`t kids is just parents remember they want you to get all your grades up and don`t worried I am coming back to WPC but to help I don`t know clay
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Naru2008
Naru2008
13. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 4 2010, 12:30 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 4 2010, 12:30 PM EST
Since Cameron never did what I asked, and post what I wantd him to post for me, i'll do it myself. :)

Alex: Yes, most of us Mods are teens. We have school, like most users on Wetpaint, and I have not been on because the only way I could get on is my DSi, but the server connection times out and takes me over 20 refreshes before I can even have WPC or another site. I have been grounded for a bad grade. We are JUST Community Volunteers. The ONLY Moderator that is NOT a Community Volunteer is Kevin, who works for Wetpaint, but is not paid for his services. (Like us Mods.)
Cameron: Yes Cameron, it is a Discussion Forum, and is under that section, but it is not suppose to be for discussions. It's okay, if it's like a problem and we are turning it into a discussion on ow to fix it or whatever, but the way WhimperingWolf, bestagirl56, and icepaw99 did it is what we don't allow.
Alex: We deal with product support problems like problems with Wetpaint and questions, but we do not deal with the ACTUAL product and support problems. Those are questions for Kevin and Jeremy and most of the time, they are the only ones who can actually answer them correctly. For example, when someone has a problem with their EasyEdit, we tell them to be sure they have a supported browser, and try clearing their cache and cookies. That's the kind of Product Support problem us Mods answer and know what to tell other users. Now, if Wetpaint changed something, like add, removed, or changed a feature, and people ask what is wrong with it or why it is like that, all we Mods can say is that we are aware of this change, but we can not explain why they did it unless one of us are told by Kevin, Jeremy, or if none of them are able to get on, another Wetpaint staff member. Us and everyone asking about that change would have to wait on a staff member to reply. See what i'm getting at?
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Maxwilly
14. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 4 2010, 1:04 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 4 2010, 1:04 PM EST
"Cameron: Yes Cameron, it is a Discussion Forum, and is under that section, but it is not suppose to be for discussions. It's okay, if it's like a problem and we are turning it into a discussion on ow to fix it or whatever, but the way WhimperingWolf, bestagirl56, and icepaw99 did it is what we don't allow."
I know that, but I still think it's an odd rule.
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moderator_kevin
15. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 5 2010, 10:31 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 5 2010, 10:31 AM EST
Thank you for clarifying, Clay.

Usually when Jeremy and I feel there is a need for additional community moderators, we nominate a few candidates, then ask the current moderators to vote yes or no on each user. I agree that moderator activity has been down lately, especially with Clay and Josh's incapacitation. I'll talk to Jeremy tomorrow about elevating some of our more active community members to moderator status.

One question I do have for the community: How will the people you've suggested be able to better support the wiki with moderator privileges? Moderator status is a nice way to reward our dedicated volunteers, but there have to be practical reasons as well.
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Maxwilly
16. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 5 2010, 10:50 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 5 2010, 10:51 AM EST
"Thank you for clarifying, Clay.

Usually when Jeremy and I feel there is a need for additional community moderators, we nominate a few candidates, then ask the current moderators to vote yes or no on each user. I agree that moderator activity has been down lately, especially with Clay and Josh's incapacitation. I'll talk to Jeremy tomorrow about elevating some of our more active community members to moderator status.

One question I do have for the community: How will the people you've suggested be able to better support the wiki with moderator privileges? Moderator status is a nice way to reward our dedicated volunteers, but there have to be practical reasons as well."
I have a lot of time on my hands.

A benefit of different moderators is this - All of the moderators on WPC are American. I am English, so the benefit of me being a moderator would be that, thanks to time difference, I can tackle threads quickly while all the American moderators are in bed.
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CryingDove
CryingDove
17. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 5 2010, 11:02 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 5 2010, 11:02 AM EST
"I have a lot of time on my hands.

A benefit of different moderators is this - All of the moderators on WPC are American. I am English, so the benefit of me being a moderator would be that, thanks to time difference, I can tackle threads quickly while all the American moderators are in bed."
I'll cast my vote for you Max.
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justinwacnj
justinwacnj
18. RE: Should we have more community mods?
Dec 5 2010, 11:55 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 5 2010, 11:55 AM EST
I agree Max should be a mod.
And if needed I can help out as a moderator too. I have a lot of time on my hands, and on weekends I am on a lot. I've also been around for years, and have over 2,000 contributions with my old accounts here. I have been nominated many times before, but I got punished and was inactive because of that. I've matured and changed myself, so that should never be a problem for me XD
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Maxwilly
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Dec 5 2010, 12:27 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 5 2010, 12:27 PM EST
"I agree Max should be a mod.
And if needed I can help out as a moderator too. I have a lot of time on my hands, and on weekends I am on a lot. I've also been around for years, and have over 2,000 contributions with my old accounts here. I have been nominated many times before, but I got punished and was inactive because of that. I've matured and changed myself, so that should never be a problem for me XD"
Thanks guys! And I'd certainly give you my vote as well, Justin. You're helpful, and very dedicated.

Of course, there's no need to give CryingDove the vote - the only reason you're not a moderator is because you didn't want the position. It's obviously there for you if you ever want it.
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