Sign in or 
Location: Wetpaint Central Discussion Forum
Discussion: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Category:
Discussion Forum /
I Need Help
Share this|
Posted Anonymously |
81. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 4 2009, 1:18 PM EDT
"No, guess what, YOU do not get it. None of us replying to this thread work for wetpaint, so, removing private sites was not our decision. Wetpaint has given you options to get people you want on your site."Supply times when the site is to be open to registration. At this time the site permissions will be set to something other than private." "Below you will find a link to the registration form. The time frames for registration are as follows: Thursday September 24, 2009 10:00 am to 11:00 am EST Friday, September 25, 2009 1:00 pm to 3:00 pm EST" Am I missing something? How is this leaving the site private? It suggests advertising times when it will be public. Do you find this valuable? |
Naru2008 |
82. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 4 2009, 1:57 PM EDT
""Supply times when the site is to be open to registration. At this time the site permissions will be set to something other than private."Just use it like everyone is. They are not having any problems with it. That is the fix for it, so use it. ～Naru2008 Do you find this valuable? |
|
Posted Anonymously |
83. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 4 2009, 8:19 PM EDT
Well, this was one bad decision on Wetpaint's part. There's nothing keeping me here now that i can't have a private wiki. Bye bye ad revenue.
Do you find this valuable?
|
CryingDove |
84. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 4 2009, 8:51 PM EDT
""Supply times when the site is to be open to registration. At this time the site permissions will be set to something other than private."I am sorry if you were led astray. I am the creator of Splats2. All but a few articles on that wiki are of my creation. The total content on that wiki is geared towards work-arounds, tips and tricks for features not offered by Wetpaint. The only true answers to features and working with Wetpaint can be found here on Wetpaint Central. My site offers suggestions, possible solutions and information that may not apply to all users of Wetpaint Wikis. But, there may be some who find the content of Splats2, valuable for their needs. This may sound like an advertisement for my wiki, but I assure you it isn't. The content on my wiki is not endorsed nor supported by Wetpaint. Crying Dove 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
Posted Anonymously |
85. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 5 2009, 2:26 PM EDT
"I am sorry if you were led astray. I am the creator of Splats2. All but a few articles on that wiki are of my creation. The total content on that wiki is geared towards work-arounds, tips and tricks for features not offered by Wetpaint. The only true answers to features and working with Wetpaint can be found here on Wetpaint Central. My site offers suggestions, possible solutions and information that may not apply to all users of Wetpaint Wikis. But, there may be some who find the content of Splats2, valuable for their needs.Thank you for your comments CryingDove. I would still like to know if I misunderstood your posts. First, I am not the only one making the above Anonymous posts. However, I am staying anonymous here for private reasons. I am also not here to badger or punch out with emotional outbursts. It would be nice to stay using Wetpaint. Do you have a way to stay private and add members? If not, can you please help us find a solution that does? Thank you. Do you find this valuable? |
|
CryingDove |
86. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 5 2009, 2:33 PM EDT
"Thank you for your comments CryingDove. I would still like to know if I misunderstood your posts.I personally do not have a process for maintaining the privacy of a site during the invite process. I do not work for Wetpaint. I am just a tech savvy person trying to help where I can. Believe me I have tried to find the solution but to no avail. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
Posted Anonymously |
87. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 6 2009, 10:19 PM EDT
Dear discussants in this thread,A number of us are quite angry about this change. Wetpaint has truly left many people in the lurch. You can get more info by contacting sbwetpaint@gmail.com. (SB is an acronym for a memorable offensive term). Other members of the Wetpaint forum who don't know what it's like to have a private site right now, please don't attempt to censor my communication with anon. Either Wetpaint Central is an open forum where people can communicate freely or it is a censored tool of a selfish profit-motivated company. I think that it is an open forum, but if it ever changes, I hope that you will feel as betrayed as we do. I apologize for reposting this message many times, but the bottom line is that different people may have bookmarked different threads, and they all deserve to know. It's their right. Wetpaint may have underestimated just how much we have invested in our wikis and how much they have hurt us. Please Wetpaint, give us a real workaround. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
DaveGreb |
88. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 7 2009, 10:32 AM EDT
"Dear discussants in this thread,Agreed! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
Naru2008 |
89. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 7 2009, 1:15 PM EDT
"Agreed!"DaveGreb, Ignore that anonymous poster. That poster is just trying to start stuff. If you haven't read every post on this thread, I suggest you do. You'll see why this change was made. Also, good tips from: Jeremy, some Mods, CryingDove, and myself. Please, do not start stuff on WPC annonymous users. ( All of you! ) Thanks. ～Naru2008 Do you find this valuable? |
|
DaveGreb |
90. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 7 2009, 4:20 PM EDT
I hope, by posting this, that the Wetpaint Mods, Admins, and Users trying to help (Helpers), that I can refocus to the real potential problems here.I understand and agree with Anon's post 87 and others. I am angry too. I read what Jeremy said. Most of the Wetpaint helpers can only deal with what they know, which appears to be at the surface. Mechanically, we can work around the private login issue. But this is much more than a mechanical issue. Initially, it doesn't work for us because private users have essentially been told, and without warning, that Wetpaint has abandoned the principle reason they were using private sites in the first place; System Integrity. Kind of like getting fired, dumped, ignored, all after the fact because the other person or people decided this - and you had no idea it was coming or input about it. Stunned, you think about all the time you invested in that person or company or website (thinking, collaborating, designing, implementing, and maintaining the relationship) all to find out after the fact that they didn't care about you anymore, oh, and there is no apology coming. Just a "we're sad to see you go" but you need to move on. For some or all private sites, Wetpaint convinced site creators and members that their information would remain private all of the time, not most of the time. (not open to bots) it is all or nothing. Memberships, like friendships and relationships, grow based on trust. So, the emotion you sense is by those whose trust was broken, by Wetpaint, without warning and no apology. And no one wants to be told by a helper that you should stop your complaining and move on. And, I don't think that staying quiet is always a smart thing. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
DaveGreb |
91. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 7 2009, 4:44 PM EDT
Testing private permissions and monetizing issues are what I believe I read. Okay. So it takes work to support private site permissions. Maybe there are other options available. Why aren't they saying "We need help with this". Be creative and constructive. Having trouble monetizing private sites? Charge something for them. Or, find a way to register clicks and count page views within the private site. Something constructive. Something besides turning you backs on one of your market segments. Obviously, the helpers are not in the position to help, so any replies from them are not going to carry much weight with my last two posts, or the higher level issues here. If you have business problems, I hope you get them worked out. Dave 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
jeremy_wetpaint |
92. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 7 2009, 9:23 PM EDT
"Testing private permissions and monetizing issues are what I believe I read. Okay. So it takes work to support private site permissions. Maybe there are other options available. Why aren't they saying "We need help with this". Be creative and constructive.Thanks for your input Dave. Charging for private sites was an idea that was tossed around, but even that would have required significant development time. Our development team is working on some major projects so they have a lot of other stuff on their plate right now. This is one of the reasons that support for invites on private sites was pulled in the first place. In an upcoming release the option to invite will be fully removed from private sites in order to avoid further confusion. We know that this really stinks for those of you that have enjoyed using private sites up to now, but we only have so many hands on deck and they need to all be rowing together in the same direction. Unfortunately, we had to make the hard decision to row in a direction that leads away from private sites. We believe we are doing what is best for the majority of our users and for Wetpaint as a company. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
DaveGreb |
93. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 8 2009, 9:04 AM EDT
"Thanks for your input Dave. Charging for private sites was an idea that was tossed around, but even that would have required significant development time. Our development team is working on some major projects so they have a lot of other stuff on their plate right now. This is one of the reasons that support for invites on private sites was pulled in the first place. In an upcoming release the option to invite will be fully removed from private sites in order to avoid further confusion.Thanks, Jeremy. Does this mean you will also be removing the ability to make a public site private after it is set up? I see that we can't even create a private site. I was asked this morning to create a private wiki for another professional organization, and couldn't even create it. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
Posted Anonymously |
94. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 8 2009, 12:39 PM EDT
Jeremy's reply makes it clear that Wetpaint has made a strategic decision to abandon users who want private sites. Sounds like it won't even be an option in the future, "in order to avoid further confusion". Many Wetpaint sites are used by educators (like me), and contain private or confidential information. I don't want to have to remove this information from the site, and I can't make it public (even for a little while - private is private and public is public), so Wetpaint has made my options very limited. I'm willing to pay to continue as a private wiki with invites, but that's not an option which is on offer. Sounds like the company has made a strategic decision to abandon the use of educational wikis and other sites which value privacy, in favour of public wikis about cool new TV shows/RPG/LOLcats. I wish the company luck with this decision - they recently laid off a chunk of the workforce, so clearly they have decided to try a new direction. It's just a pity they're not taking a direction which respects and honours the time and effort that many of their users have poured into their wikis. They have a huge base of wiki creators out here, and it's hard to see why they've decided to turn their back on a large chunk of them in such a peremptory manner. According to Wikipedia, over one million wikis have been created on Wetpaint. Surely there is a business model which can allow private wikis to persist? (note: wikipedia page on Wetpaint updated with new section on "Limitations") Jon 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
tamsin.briggs |
95. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 10 2009, 6:17 AM EDT
Dear Wetpaint,I have read all 5 pages of comments regarding this problem. I have effectively managed (at personal and professional risk : I could be sued and fired for not protecting my pupils' privacy) managed to register several of my pupils on the English learning website I have devoted hundreds our hours creating and maintaining. Unfortunately, as I was not aware of this policy change, at least 7 of my pupils are unable to register whether the site is public or not, because their user name and/ or email adresses come up as "already used", even though they do not appear in my list of members. Can someone from Wetpaint contact me so I can supply the list of email addresses which need to be deleted or refreshed in the database? Many thanks for your help. I would hate to see all my hard work go down th drain... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
CryingDove |
96. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 10 2009, 11:42 AM EDT
| Post edited: Oct 10 2009, 11:44 AM EDT
The messages the seven students are receiving indicates they already have accounts with Wetpaint and are trying to Join Wetpaint again.All they would need to do is sign in Wetpaint using their existing user name and password, then go to your wiki and click on "Join Now" button. That will make them a member of your wiki. The site would have to be public at the time of joining. Do you find this valuable? |
|
tamsin.briggs |
97. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 10 2009, 2:03 PM EDT
"The messages the seven students are receiving indicates they already have accounts with Wetpaint and are trying to Join Wetpaint again.I have tried this with a username + pw + email address and it doesn't work. Do you find this valuable? |
|
Bridget_S |
98. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 10 2009, 5:53 PM EDT
So, should this discussion move to "Where are we going to go next?" I'm so frustrated with this situation, I've been hoping that the weight of comment would at least have some weight, but it seems not. I am recently returned from an AGM of my assocation where we decided to carry on with out site being private, voted for overwhelmingly by our membership, returning to find this mess. I'd have a big long rant if I thought Wetpaint would listen to it's users, but it seems decisions have been made and the hours of work we have put in have been for naught. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
2670 |
99. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 10 2009, 9:03 PM EDT
http://splats2.wetpaint.com/page/Private+Site+InvitingThis should help you. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
|
tamsin.briggs |
100. RE: Invites and Private Sites - not working
Oct 11 2009, 5:20 AM EDT
"http://splats2.wetpaint.com/page/Private+Site+InvitingThank you for trying, but I'm working with teenagers and their parents and the educational sytem's privacy requirements are huge : making the kids email addresses public is not an issue. Also Ihave tried aking the site public (at night) and using the info given to me my one pupil to recreate the account : I inveiably come up with the message "A user already exists with that email address." : when I originally tried to invite them, tey created their account, but now they are not granted access to the site (even when I'vemade it public) an can't register uder another slightly different user nam because they're address has already been used... I'm leaving for hospital for 3 weeks on Tuesday and have given the kids an assignment : 7 of them cannot access the site, and those who haven't yet registered won't be able to, as I can't leave the sign on as "public" during my absence. Any fresh ideas ? This is starting to be no fun at all... Do you find this valuable? |
