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ForestForTreesTMS
ForestForTreesTMS
Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Sep 18 2009, 6:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 18 2009, 6:13 PM EDT
I run several wikis, some of them private and some of them nonprivate. I would like to give access to one of the private ones to a member of one of the nonprivate ones. Let's call the user in this case "Jane." Jane is a user on tmswiki.wetpaint.com and wants access to one of my private wikis. When I go to the private wiki, click on invite, input her email and finish sending the email, she reports that when she clicks on the link in the invite, it lists her as already logged in in her username (in the upper right hand corner of the screen), but DOESN'T allow her to join the private wiki. Of note is the fact that she may have given me a different email address for the private wiki than the one that she used for her account at the nonprivate wiki.

Since I will be having to do this again in the future, I'd like to know how to do this two different ways. First, if Jane wants to start a new account on the private wiki, my impression is that she can just log out of her old Wetpaint account before clicking on the link in the invitation. Then, through the magic of the invite, the wiki will allow her to make a completely different account. The second approach that I'd like to better understand (and the one that I think she is actually interested in) is to give her a way to sign up to the private wiki using THE SAME account that she is using on the nonprivate wiki. How do I do that?

Thanks for your help.
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jeremy_wetpaint
jeremy_wetpaint
1. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Sep 18 2009, 8:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 18 2009, 8:41 PM EDT
The invite feature is not currently functioning for use with private sites. In order for a user to join a private site, you will need to change the site permissions setting to make the site non-private. Once the user has joined the site you may change the site back to private status. The user should be able to join the site with their existing account or create a new account. 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
wear0260
wear0260
2. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Sep 19 2009, 10:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2009, 10:27 PM EDT
Any idea when this issue with the invite feature might be resolved? I'm just trying to get a sense of what to tell my professors, who run the private wikis I'm trying to join. Thanks. Do you find this valuable?    
wear0260
wear0260
3. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Sep 19 2009, 10:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2009, 10:29 PM EDT
Nevermind - found my answer on a different thread. Do you find this valuable?    

gheeghee
4. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Sep 20 2009, 7:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 7:17 AM EDT
hi, wear0260, may I know what is the solution you found (not change wiki site totally, i hope) ? I am having problems with private invites too Do you find this valuable?    

Posted Anonymously
5. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Sep 20 2009, 10:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 10:52 PM EDT
"Nevermind - found my answer on a different thread. "
I would also like to know when it will be resolved. Were did you find the answer or what is the answer. Thanks.
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Posted Anonymously
6. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Sep 21 2009, 3:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 21 2009, 3:04 AM EDT
Sorry - I guess I wasn't clear. What I meant was that I found an answer to my question re: when the issue might be resolved. The answer being that the Wetpaint staff are working on it :) We'll have to be patient in the meantime. Do you find this valuable?    

Posted Anonymously
7. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Sep 24 2009, 4:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 4:25 PM EDT
From Wetpaint:
<<
No Invites for Private Sites!
Wetpaint recently dropped support for private sites. This means private sites cannot send invitations to people/users that they want to join the site.
>>
Available here: http://www.wetpaintcentral.com/

Terrible change of policies by Wetpaint. It shows how at the mercy consumers are at these free sites. Heck, I would pay a small fee to keep it private... and still keep the ads.

As far as I know, there was not discussion and no notification sent to the creators of private sites. Poor relationship management on the part of Wetpaint.

- Charos
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DaveGreb
8. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 5 2009, 5:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 5:44 PM EDT
"Sorry - I guess I wasn't clear. What I meant was that I found an answer to my question re: when the issue might be resolved. The answer being that the Wetpaint staff are working on it :) We'll have to be patient in the meantime. "
Where did you find this? I have not seen any indication yet that the staff is working on this issue. This is a HUGE issue for several sites I admin.
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DaveGreb
9. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 5 2009, 5:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 5:45 PM EDT
"From Wetpaint:
<<
No Invites for Private Sites!
Wetpaint recently dropped support for private sites. This means private sites cannot send invitations to people/users that they want to join the site.
>>
Available here: http://www.wetpaintcentral.com/

Terrible change of policies by Wetpaint. It shows how at the mercy consumers are at these free sites. Heck, I would pay a small fee to keep it private... and still keep the ads.

As far as I know, there was not discussion and no notification sent to the creators of private sites. Poor relationship management on the part of Wetpaint.

- Charos "
Agreed! Terrible!
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DerCat
DerCat
10. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 5 2009, 6:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 6:01 PM EDT
I am sorry to say this but private sites are NOT going to be able to invite users anymore. You will hav eto make them public until all of your needed members join. Then you make it private again. There is also another way. Go to Splats2.wetpaint.com 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

DaveGreb
11. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 5 2009, 7:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 7:11 PM EDT
"I am sorry to say this but private sites are NOT going to be able to invite users anymore. You will hav eto make them public until all of your needed members join. Then you make it private again. There is also another way. Go to Splats2.wetpaint.com "
I hope you are just spreading bad news from other threads and don't really have news from Wetpaint Staff. Mechanically, it works. Integrity is violated, though. Making private sites public for even short periods of time is an unacceptable solution for 2, if not all 3 of my sites. This is very bad for us (projected to be a couple hundred people). I sure hope you are wrong. We can't stay without a solution that doesn't compromise the integrity of the site. I was really liking Wetpaint. Sad.
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chrisco97
chrisco97
12. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 5 2009, 7:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 7:26 PM EDT
I am sorry about this problem. But complaining is going to get you no where. And the Wetpaint staff has said their selves that it will not be brought back. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

DaveGreb
13. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 5 2009, 9:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 9:32 PM EDT
"I am sorry about this problem. But complaining is going to get you no where. And the Wetpaint staff has said their selves that it will not be brought back."
Really? I'll bet you don't really represent Wetpaint.

I would like to think that a quality organization would cherish feedback. I would also like to think that Wetpaint is a quality organization. To remain silent when such an atrocious change has impacted a lot of people (from my respective view) would be atrocious in itself. If I were to remain silent, the decision-makers would think I don't care. I think this is really important. You don't have to.

I also don't know that I have read anything from the decision-makers. If so, let them speak up? It is my understanding that Jeremy, Matt and Rich aren't decision-makers, staff or employees? Or, am I wrong?
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CryingDove
CryingDove
14. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 5 2009, 9:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 9:44 PM EDT
Not me..I do not work for Wetpaint. But, I do try to react to decisions that are thrust my way. Hopefully in a manner that would allow some comfort to those effected. That is what my entire site is all about. Finding ways to do things that normally cannot be done. Do you find this valuable?    
shadowmlb
shadowmlb
15. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 5 2009, 11:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 11:25 PM EDT
"Really? I'll bet you don't really represent Wetpaint.

I would like to think that a quality organization would cherish feedback. I would also like to think that Wetpaint is a quality organization. To remain silent when such an atrocious change has impacted a lot of people (from my respective view) would be atrocious in itself. If I were to remain silent, the decision-makers would think I don't care. I think this is really important. You don't have to.

I also don't know that I have read anything from the decision-makers. If so, let them speak up? It is my understanding that Jeremy, Matt and Rich aren't decision-makers, staff or employees? Or, am I wrong?"
No, Chrisco does not represent Wetpaint by any means. He is simply sharing his own opinions on this matter.
Your feedback is appreciated, but to an extent it can be rather annoying. Posting in every single thread on this matter is a good way to show your feedback, but after a while we get the point and it sort of becomes repetitive.
Jeremy is an actual employee at Wetpaint. Matt is a Community Moderator, meaning he volunteers his help around WPC. Rich is a former Community Moderator, but resigned recently for his own reasons. Basically the Community Moderators help out around the site and answer members questions, they don't actually have anything to do with what Wetpaint does.
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Posted Anonymously
16. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 6 2009, 5:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2009, 5:58 PM EDT
"No, Chrisco does not represent Wetpaint by any means. He is simply sharing his own opinions on this matter.
Your feedback is appreciated, but to an extent it can be rather annoying. Posting in every single thread on this matter is a good way to show your feedback, but after a while we get the point and it sort of becomes repetitive.
Jeremy is an actual employee at Wetpaint. Matt is a Community Moderator, meaning he volunteers his help around WPC. Rich is a former Community Moderator, but resigned recently for his own reasons. Basically the Community Moderators help out around the site and answer members questions, they don't actually have anything to do with what Wetpaint does."
As someone whose site will be completely devastated by this hastily made and poorly announced decision, I really appreciate the way that DaveGreb has been standing up for this. For those who may be frustrated by his posts, I encourage you to simply skip them. He's essentially representing a group of people who have put massive amounts of time and money into their wikis only to have them essentially destroyed. I think that the thread that best represents what they've done is this one:
http://www.wetpaintcentral.com/thread/3347308/COMPLETE+BETRAYAL+OF+CUSTOMERS+BY+WETPAINT
Wetpaint needs to hear this.

It's true that he posts in multiple threads, but some people affected by this may not read every thread. Therefore, you have to post in multiple places if you want to raise awareness. He is generally respectful--at least more respectful than some of the defenders of Wetpaint.

You have to understand, they have it in their power to fix this. If they don't, our wikis are essentially GONE. How would you feel if you were in our position?
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Posted Anonymously
17. RE: Inviting someone to a private wiki who already has a Wetpaint account
Oct 6 2009, 10:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2009, 10:15 PM EDT
Hi anon, anon, and Dave,

A number of us are quite angry about this change. Wetpaint has truly left many people in the lurch. You can get more info by contacting sbwetpaint@gmail.com. (SB is an acronym for a memorable offensive term).

Other members of the Wetpaint forum who don't know what it's like to have a private site right now, please don't attempt to censor my communication with anon. Either Wetpaint Central is an open forum where people can communicate freely or it is a censored tool of a selfish profit-motivated company. I think that it is an open forum, but if it ever changes, I hope that you will feel as betrayed as we do.

Wetpaint may have underestimated just how much we have invested in our wikis and how much they have hurt us. Please Wetpaint, give us a real workaround.
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charos
18. Trying to Open a Dialogue regarding Private Wikis
Oct 15 2009, 9:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 15 2009, 9:18 PM EDT
#17 Thanks for the posting. There is a strange under-current regarding this subject that some seem to be squelch discussion about it.

This is not a system upgrade. This is a policy decision by the operators of this enterprise.

The simple fact is that a great site and wonderful tool is now useless for myself and many others. One of my sites was for a political campaign,

I have closed it down, and we are re-grouping regarding our communications and strategy model. Lots of work we had to do with no notice or explanation of why the /policy/ changed.

- Charos

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Posted Anonymously
19. RE: Trying to Open a Dialogue regarding Private Wikis
May 28 2011, 2:19 AM EDT | Post edited: May 28 2011, 2:19 AM EDT
It's simply ridiculous. WetPaint has alienated their customer base. Time to go elsewhere....new options daily....
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